{"id":18194,"date":"2021-11-11T06:06:54","date_gmt":"2021-11-11T06:06:54","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.backupassist.com\/blog\/?p=18194"},"modified":"2021-11-11T07:12:26","modified_gmt":"2021-11-11T07:12:26","slug":"copied-file-size-bytes-differs-from-source-sharepoint-onedrive-for-business","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.backupassist.com\/blog\/copied-file-size-bytes-differs-from-source-sharepoint-onedrive-for-business","title":{"rendered":"SharePoint \/ OneDrive for Business backups &#8211;  Copied\u202ffile\u202fsize\u202fbytes\u202fdiffers\u202ffrom\u202fsource\u202ffile\u202fsize\u202f"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">TL;DR&nbsp;Summary&nbsp;<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>This issue typically happens on your first backup, where thousands of files are downloaded.\u00a0<\/li><li>This issue is\u00a0<strong>self-correcting<\/strong>\u00a0in BackupAssist 365. 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This is because the first backup will download thousands of files.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">#2 How does BackupAssist 365 self-correct this?\u00a0<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>BackupAssist 365 was designed to deal with the unreliability of cloud services.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Any files that are not backed up in your first backup will be attempted when the next backup runs.&nbsp;This is because&nbsp;BackupAssist&nbsp;365 performs a differential backup \u2013 it compares the data in the cloud to the data in the local&nbsp;backup, and&nbsp;downloads the deltas.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Sidenote: despite what cloud vendors say, the cloud storage is not as reliable as you might&nbsp;be told, especially compared to a local hard drive.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For example, if we issue a million requests to cloud storage or local storage, we&nbsp;commonly see:&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Zero failures from local storage\u00a0(unless your hard drive has bad sectors).\u00a0<\/li><li>Hundreds or thousands of failures on cloud storage \u2013\u00a0for which we find two main causes:\u00a0<ul><li>internal server errors at the cloud storage provider end \u2013 including load balancing issues, \u201ctemporarily unavailable\u201d issues\u00a0<\/li><li>internet\u00a0outages, even if\u00a0there\u00a0are\u00a0only a few seconds of downtime.\u00a0<\/li><\/ul><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">#3 What\u00a0causes this to happen?\u00a0<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>After downloading each file, BackupAssist 365 performs a \u201csanity check\u201d to make sure the downloaded file has the same file length as the cloud copy.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If this sanity check fails, then we mark the file as an error.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The problem we observe is that sporadically, SharePoint reports the incorrect length of the file in the cloud.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We can confirm, through meticulous testing, there is no problem with the files on SharePoint themselves, nor is it caused by open files. 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